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I know this may not be the best place, but I was hoping I could get some feedback on the newest Video Cards. I am in the market for one, and I want to hear all of the good and bad news about each one.
I have done my homework. But you may want to be specific for those that haven't.
So far, I want to spend no more than $200. The ATI 9700 Pro is a little out of my range. But, feel free to try to convince me to buy it...if you have had good experience with it.
Please, only Nvidia and ATI.
Thanks.
I have done my homework. But you may want to be specific for those that haven't.
So far, I want to spend no more than $200. The ATI 9700 Pro is a little out of my range. But, feel free to try to convince me to buy it...if you have had good experience with it.
Please, only Nvidia and ATI.
Thanks.
Hehe.
The 9500 pro and 9700 standard are good candidates, the 9500 pro is basically a 9700 underclocked, so you can overclock it to very nice speeds. Similarly with the 9700 standard, its very overclockable. However these cards are getting harder to get now, as ATI bring out the 9600 series, which as far as I've seen so far doesn't even beat the 9500 pro, and its specially designed to stop overclocking (ATI thought the 9500 pro sales were bringing the 9700 ones down)
nVidia styles, I hear the 5900 Ultra or something is meant to be really good, however that's very expensive. The lower nVidia cards dont match up to the corresponding ATI ones.
nVidia styles, I hear the 5900 Ultra or something is meant to be really good, however that's very expensive. The lower nVidia cards dont match up to the corresponding ATI ones.
..................................RADEONâ„¢ 9600 PRO.....RADEONâ„¢ 9500 PRO
Frame Buffer. .................128MB DDR................. 128MB DDR
Memory Interface................ 128-bit ......................128-bit
Rendering Pipelines.................. 4 ...............................8
Pixel Fillrate (Gpixels/sec).........1.6............................ ?
Engine Clock (MHz)................. 400 .............................275
Memory Clock (MHz)...............600 ............................540
Price.......................................$150-185...................$200
OK, the 9600 pro has a fan...but one of the models I was looking at didn't have a fan.
Oh, and you better have at least a 300watt power supply!
Frame Buffer. .................128MB DDR................. 128MB DDR
Memory Interface................ 128-bit ......................128-bit
Rendering Pipelines.................. 4 ...............................8
Pixel Fillrate (Gpixels/sec).........1.6............................ ?
Engine Clock (MHz)................. 400 .............................275
Memory Clock (MHz)...............600 ............................540
Price.......................................$150-185...................$200
OK, the 9600 pro has a fan...but one of the models I was looking at didn't have a fan.
Oh, and you better have at least a 300watt power supply!
Hehe.
Ok, I just reread your post...did you mean 9500pro or just a regular 9500?
I have never actually seen the L formation of memory chips, but just to make sure the 9500 black PCB versionand 9500Pro red PCB versionaren't configured like that, right? (I only see ram along one side of the GPU).
I have never actually seen the L formation of memory chips, but just to make sure the 9500 black PCB versionand 9500Pro red PCB versionaren't configured like that, right? (I only see ram along one side of the GPU).
Hehe.
Yes. Yes. You are correct. I've been doing some reading lately...and I now understand most of the ins and outs.
I'm in the process of getting one, but it's a hit or miss game. It is pretty hard to find one, but I have found 5 different ones now. But, like I said, it may not fall through.
Anyways, it's kind of a gamble, because opening those other pipelines cause checkerboard defects. The theory is that the 9700 PCB and GPU were used for the 9500 because some of the 9700 GPUs had defective pipelines (one of those four that are disabled). Hope I get a good one. *crosses fingers*
I don't guess you know of one that is KNOWN to work?
I'm in the process of getting one, but it's a hit or miss game. It is pretty hard to find one, but I have found 5 different ones now. But, like I said, it may not fall through.
Anyways, it's kind of a gamble, because opening those other pipelines cause checkerboard defects. The theory is that the 9700 PCB and GPU were used for the 9500 because some of the 9700 GPUs had defective pipelines (one of those four that are disabled). Hope I get a good one. *crosses fingers*
I don't guess you know of one that is KNOWN to work?
Hehe.
XP Home and Duplicate Monitors?
Hi
I have XP Home Ed which doesn´t support duplicate monitors, that is needed if I want to watch my dvd/mpeg/other on regular TV. I have the cables and TV-out and all so it´s very frustrating...
Do I have to install XP Pro (if I get it for free... ) or is there any plugin/apps/other to install that can compensate this loss?
Anyone knows?
I have XP Home Ed which doesn´t support duplicate monitors, that is needed if I want to watch my dvd/mpeg/other on regular TV. I have the cables and TV-out and all so it´s very frustrating...
Do I have to install XP Pro (if I get it for free... ) or is there any plugin/apps/other to install that can compensate this loss?
Anyone knows?
duplicaded monitors
(I used this forum ´cos I thought it was close to the disc about Videocards...)
Re: XP Home and Duplicate Monitors?
look for other video driver for your video card, probably the only install is not aware of the tv out feature.Delly wrote:Hi
I have XP Home Ed which doesn´t support duplicate monitors, that is needed if I want to watch my dvd/mpeg/other on regular TV. I have the cables and TV-out and all so it´s very frustrating...
Do I have to install XP Pro (if I get it for free... ) or is there any plugin/apps/other to install that can compensate this loss?
Anyone knows?
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But I have updated my drivers for my nVidia GF FX 5200 with TV-out! And the card came with the computer, installed and all.
Search for what, alternative drivers for the same card?
Search for what, alternative drivers for the same card?
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Re: video card
sometime reseller don't take the time to install the drivers that came with the vdo card (drivers available in XP) or install generic one (because of cloning).Delly wrote:But I have updated my drivers for my nVidia GF FX 5200 with TV-out! And the card came with the computer, installed and all.
Search for what, alternative drivers for the same card?
make sure it's the one that came with the CD and that it's really support tvout in XP.
if not try to find alternative on the net.
check your drivers you should have two drivers on for each display before that check that you have connected the cables to your tv so that the video card can reconais it, i had some problems with the tv out too and driver update worked (for radeon 9600pro)Delly wrote:I´ve tryed all that.
but thanx anyway.
I´ll continue my struggle....
/D
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Do you mean that I should have one driver (= drivrutin in swedish?) for each monitor, one for comp.monitor and one that is specific driver for TV? How do I separate them....?
Are those drivers not the same as for the one to my videocard?
The cables are in place...
And drivers for my nVidia GeForce FX 5200 is updated.
But no picture on TV...
Are those drivers not the same as for the one to my videocard?
The cables are in place...
And drivers for my nVidia GeForce FX 5200 is updated.
But no picture on TV...
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the important point here is, (if you use tv out)
check that the tv is set for the right video input.
check the cable is good.
if you don't have directX9 install do so.
tv out on the 5200 can work at up to 1024*768, real colors mode only(24 or 32 bits)
new driver settings should be available then.peksa wrote:check that you have connected the cables to your tv
check that the tv is set for the right video input.
check the cable is good.
if you don't have directX9 install do so.
tv out on the 5200 can work at up to 1024*768, real colors mode only(24 or 32 bits)
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Ok, ou've all been slagging off the 9600 series but I have something you may be interested in. I have 2 PCs running, 1 with a 9500 Pro (not overclocked) and a 9600 PRO and I can say the 9600 is v much quicker.
The 9800 Pro is out now though and has an F-Buffer which makes stuff much faster but is v expensive.
The 9600 PRO is a great card and also beats nVidia's nearest offering (the FX5600) hands down.
Ben
The 9800 Pro is out now though and has an F-Buffer which makes stuff much faster but is v expensive.
The 9600 PRO is a great card and also beats nVidia's nearest offering (the FX5600) hands down.
Ben
So jbyrd if want to pay about 200 bucks, it's definetely Radeon 9600pro & 9500pro. I'm not very familiar with nVIDIA cards, but afaik, the GeForce FX series are flop, FX 5600 would be comparable with Radeon 9600 Pro in price but it's definetely slower. The GeForce 4 Ti were quite good I think, but the Ti ones which beat 9600 Pro are much more expensive.
The Radeon 9800SE costs 200-250 bucks if I remember right, and some of the 9800SEs can be changed to 9800 PRO. 9600XT is a very good choice too, not expensive but remarkably faster than 9600 Pro.
I recommend buying a Hercules 3D Prophet Radeon or Connect3D Radeon cards, I really don't really trust those Club3D and sapphire ones, they're so cheap :/
BTW, you shouldn't trust me 100%, as not anyone else talking about what's the best video card.
The Radeon 9800SE costs 200-250 bucks if I remember right, and some of the 9800SEs can be changed to 9800 PRO. 9600XT is a very good choice too, not expensive but remarkably faster than 9600 Pro.
I recommend buying a Hercules 3D Prophet Radeon or Connect3D Radeon cards, I really don't really trust those Club3D and sapphire ones, they're so cheap :/
BTW, you shouldn't trust me 100%, as not anyone else talking about what's the best video card.