No slots available when getting filelist

MrCrowley · Post by **MrCrowley** » 2003-09-12 07:58

I haven't long been running a hub and what i want to know is what are all the possible reasons that a user wouldn't have slots available when you are trying to download their list? starting with the most likely.

I think i have a good few idea's why it happens but i need to be clear about it. I want to run a fair hub and not ban innocent users.
Thanx and sorry if this was asked b4.

Lightning Man · Post by **Lightning Man** » 2003-09-12 09:12

Their slots are being used by others, either in your hub or in another hub to which they are connected at the same time.

MrCrowley · Post by **MrCrowley** » 2003-09-12 09:40

Lightning Man wrote:Their slots are being used by others, either in your hub or in another hub to which they are connected at the same time.

Is that all the possible reasons? I thought DC++ always opened extra slots for sending filelists (and certain other clients)??

I've been under the impression that many of these users are slotlocking or trying to hide their fake shares.
Please help... i need more info.

TheParanoidOne · Post by **TheParanoidOne** » 2003-09-12 09:46

DC++ has 3 mini-slots that it will use for files under a certain size (16KB IIRC). If the file list is larger than this, then it uses a standard slot.

There is always the possibility that the users are faking and/or slotblocking. But there is also the possibility that they may just be out of slots at the moment. The best thing to do would be to ask them for a slot so you can get their list. I've seen a number of hubs where one of the rules is "If an OP asks you for a slot, give him one". You could implement something like that.

MrCrowley · Post by **MrCrowley** » 2003-09-12 10:00

TheParanoidOne wrote:"If an OP asks you for a slot, give him one". You could implement something like that.

I do already have that rule... but a problem is users don't always respond to your message, i have actually been banning many users because i was sure they where faking or slotlocking

If i could make a suggestion for DC++ it should always open at least 1 extra slot for sending file lists no matter how big that list is.

Sedulus · Post by **Sedulus** » 2003-09-12 10:01

TheParanoidOne wrote:DC++ has 3 mini-slots that it will use for files under a certain size (16KB IIRC). If the file list is larger than this, then it uses a standard slot.

filelists and small files (16kB yes) are considered small files, and will use a minislot (unless the user has free slots).
and... OPs are always granted a minislot

so if you can't get a list or small file from a user when you're an OP, the user is not using (an unmodified) DC++

MrCrowley · Post by **MrCrowley** » 2003-09-12 10:07

Sedulus wrote:OPs are always granted a minislot

ahh this is what i wanted to hear... of course i am Op on my own hub

So i can be sure those users that don't give a slot are: using a modified dc++ (which could be faking or slotlocking) or using some other client that won't give a slot to an op. Right?

Perhaps there is more i should know?

Twink · Post by **Twink** » 2003-09-12 19:49

MrCrowley wrote:
Sedulus wrote:OPs are always granted a minislot
ahh this is what i wanted to hear... of course i am Op on my own hub

So i can be sure those users that don't give a slot are: using a modified dc++ (which could be faking or slotlocking) or using some other client that won't give a slot to an op. Right?

Perhaps there is more i should know?

are you sure they're using dc++, there are alot of other clients out there they could be using, which dont have the minislot features

MrCrowley · Post by **MrCrowley** » 2003-09-13 09:52

Twink wrote:are you sure they're using dc++, there are alot of other clients out there they could be using, which dont have the minislot features

Yes i realize this and i want to filter those clients.

The latest nmdc has minislots and DCGUI to my knowledge (that just about covers all os's) and both show tag information hubs slots etc.

I want to filter all other clients because i see no real reason the client shouldn't be able to give an op a slot for file checking, they either need a updated client or they are just plain faking/slot locking/hiding tag and i don't want to build a hub that my friends connect to while they get leeched by these fakers.

If i have said anything wrong please correct me. I came here looking for information and to conform my beliefs, i started by asking for all the possible reasons a user might not have a slot available when you are trying to get there file list because i don't want to kick users unfairly. And while information given so far has been usefull it hasn't really answered all my questions.

MrCrowley · Post by **MrCrowley** » 2003-09-13 09:58

Where the damn edit button??

I should have said i want to filter all clients that don't give a slot to an op for file checking purposes.

Post by **GargoyleMT** » 2003-09-14 14:48

MrCrowley wrote:The latest nmdc has minislots and DCGUI to my knowledge (that just about covers all os's) and both show tag information hubs slots etc.

So it does.

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