How to get an IP address for a hub

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How to get an IP address for a hub

Post by Desiundaground » 2004-06-12 13:42

Yes finally i have got my hub running but the thing is that it is running through a router and my IP add for my router is 10.0.0.8 and when i try to put that in at www.no-ip.com it says "The IP address you entered is invalid. Please enter a non-private IP network address" can any one plz help?? :)

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Post by Xan1977 » 2004-06-12 14:07

That's a local IP address, enter the IP you get from www.whatismyip.com

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Post by Desiundaground » 2004-06-12 16:41

ive tried that mate and that doesnt seem to work, my hubs add is desiundaground.no-ip.com but that doesnt work :? but if i try 10.0.08 on my pc it works and on my brothers pc too

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Post by TheParanoidOne » 2004-06-12 16:55

[22:52] *** Connecting to desiundaground.no-ip.com...
[22:53] *** Connection refused by target machine
You have not correctly enabled port forwarding.
if i try 10.0.08 on my pc it works and on my brothers pc too
That is because you are on the inside of the network and so the private network address will work. Addresses of that type are not accessible from the global internet as they are not unique.
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Post by Desiundaground » 2004-06-13 04:30

How would i do the correct way of enable port forwading??

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Post by TheParanoidOne » 2004-06-13 04:58

Have you actually carried out the port forawarding in the first place?
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Post by Desiundaground » 2004-06-13 06:05

No i dont think so, how would you do that then??

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Post by TheParanoidOne » 2004-06-13 06:43

How to set up active mode with a hardware firewall/router?

It's not exactly what you are after, but the basic principal is the same.

www.portforward.com may be useful as well.
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Post by Desiundaground » 2004-06-13 08:02

orite thanks mate ill have a look through it and let you know :)

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Post by Desiundaground » 2004-06-13 13:35

Yes mate i have tried that link you gave me http://www.portforward.com/zoom/5554.htm , but that doesnt seem to work i have gone through the instruction as it says, because you have to go to "Virtual Server Config" and set up another sort of ip adress and you have to put the id in as 3 or 4 because the rest are being used up , but then it comes to public port & private port what do i have to put in there?? ps ive got a Zoom Adsl router. :)

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Post by joakim_tosteberg » 2004-06-13 13:40

Use the poernuber you are running the hub on for both boxes.

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Post by Desiundaground » 2004-06-14 10:51

Sorri mate but where and what is that "poernuber" :?

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Post by Desiundaground » 2004-06-14 11:14

And also what port do i use TCP or UDP?? thanks mate

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Post by TheParanoidOne » 2004-06-14 12:38

Desiundaground wrote:what is that "poernuber" :?
It's a typo. He meant port number. As for what protocol you should be using, it's both TCP and UDP, using the same port number for both.
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Post by joakim_tosteberg » 2004-06-14 12:40

Sorry, my fingers must have slipped. poernuber = portnumber
You need both TCP and UDP. TCP for downloading and UDP for searching.

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Post by Desiundaground » 2004-06-14 13:51

okay thanks mate ill try that out anf let you know

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Post by Desiundaground » 2004-06-15 11:28

No that doesnt work mate it still says
*** Connecting to desiundaground.no-ip.com...
*** Connection timeout :? got any more ideas??

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Post by joakim_tosteberg » 2004-06-15 12:22

I made another somple misstake but which shouldn't make any diffrence. Only the TCP port is neccesry, not UPD. What I described with the ports was client<->client traffic.
Can you post a screenshot of the portforwarind section of your router? ( You'll need to host it somewhere else and the link to it here. )

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Post by Desiundaground » 2004-06-16 12:37

You know do i put the port number 411?? beacuse thats what it says next to port number in my hub

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Post by Xan1977 » 2004-06-16 14:24

Yes, use port 411

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Post by Desiundaground » 2004-06-16 15:47

So shall i just give you a shot of the portforwararding section ? but has to be on a diffrent host? is my site okay?? :)

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Post by Xan1977 » 2004-06-16 16:01

Desiundaground wrote:So shall i just give you a shot of the portforwararding section ?
sure.
Desiundaground wrote:but has to be on a diffrent host?
huh?
Desiundaground wrote:is my site okay?? :)
no.

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Post by TheParanoidOne » 2004-06-16 17:08

Xan1977 wrote:
Desiundaground wrote:is my site okay?? :)
no.
I interpreted this as "Is it OK to use my website to host the screenshots?"
If that is the case, the answer would be yes. If not, then I guess the question isn't clear enough.
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Post by Xan1977 » 2004-06-16 17:18

Man, I completely missinterpreted that one. Wow. Ok, sorry Desi. Thanks once again TPO. :)

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Post by Desiundaground » 2004-06-17 10:46

lolz so shall i put it on my site so you can see the screenshot?? 8)

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Post by Xan1977 » 2004-06-17 10:52

Desiundaground wrote:lolz so shall i put it on my site so you can see the screenshot?? 8)
Absolutely. Please do. :)

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Post by Desiundaground » 2004-06-21 12:55

Here sorri about the wait was really busy but anyway ive done as you said and here is the link http://www.geocities.com/desiundaground/adsl.htm thanks mate

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Post by BSOD2600 » 2004-06-21 13:01

From that picture, it appears you have port forwarding set up wrong.

You need to put your internal IP address in the virtual server IP field, not your external one. Get your internal IP address by: start | run | cmd | ipconfig

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Post by Desiundaground » 2004-06-21 15:38

so i need to put in my network ip adress for both of them?? because my network ip adress is 10.0.0.8

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Post by TheParanoidOne » 2004-06-21 15:47

Desiundaground wrote:so i need to put in my network ip adress for both of them?? because my network ip adress is 10.0.0.8
Yes.

Also, please change that image to a JPEG! Or at least use JPEGs in the future.
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Post by Desiundaground » 2004-06-22 11:23

That doesnt work mate ive tried it and it still says
*** Connecting to desiundaground.no-ip.com...
*** Connection refused by target machine
Here is the link to see the port forwarding http://www.geocities.com/desiundaground/adsl2.htm

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Post by GargoyleMT » 2004-06-22 11:39

desiundaground.no-ip.com doesn't point to the IP you're currently posting from.

your forwarding works fine (no need for the UDP rule, though) - when I telnetted to your computer on port 411, I got this:

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(which is the beginning of the client <-> hub handshake)

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Post by Desiundaground » 2004-06-22 11:53

What do you mean when you say "desiundaground.no-ip.com doesn't point to the IP you're currently posting from" And also i dont need the UDP that is correct isnt it?? what do you mean by "when I telnetted to your computer on port 411, I got this":

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?? sorri about all the questions lol :) [/url][/code][/quote]

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Post by TheParanoidOne » 2004-06-22 12:56

Desiundaground wrote:What do you mean when you say "desiundaground.no-ip.com doesn't point to the IP you're currently posting from"
Moderators can see the IP address from which every forum post is made. GMT is saying that the IP address of "desiundaground.no-ip.com" is not the same as the IP address that you are posting from, ie. you are therefore trying to connect to an address that no longer points to your machine.
Desiundaground wrote:what do you mean by "when I telnetted to your computer on port 411, I got this"
GMT made a manual connection to your IP address (and therefore your machine) and was able to begin communication with your hub software, indicating that it is in fact running.
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Post by Desiundaground » 2004-06-22 14:27

ParanoidOne how did you get into my hub??

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Post by TheParanoidOne » 2004-06-22 14:47

Desiundaground wrote:ParanoidOne how did you get into my hub??
I said to you just now (in your hub) that I connected to "desiundaground.no-ip.com", but I made a mistake. That address no longer points to your machine. I connected to the IP address from which you posted. This is just a rehash of the last post I made. :sigh:
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Post by Desiundaground » 2004-06-22 14:59

what IP adress 10.0.0.8?? if it is wow lolz im really happy at the moment :D

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Post by TheParanoidOne » 2004-06-22 15:14

No, because that is a local address which is only available within your network which has already been explained to you at the top of the page!

This is becoming exasperating. Please just read every single post in this thread carefully. There is so much repetition of the same pieces of information over and over again.
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Post by Desiundaground » 2004-06-22 15:45

Yes i have read all of it many times but the thing i dont get isw how did u coonect to my hub?? using wat ip address :? can you tell me plz sorri if i getting anoying but just bare with me thanks

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Post by TheParanoidOne » 2004-06-22 15:55

Desiundaground wrote:Yes i have read all of it many times but the thing i dont get isw how did u coonect to my hub??
Voodoo, witchcraft and the internet. In that order.
Desiundaground wrote:using wat ip address :?
Read post #2, author Xan1977.
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Post by TheParanoidOne » 2004-06-22 15:57

I have a question: Does the "desiundaground.no-ip.com" address belong to you?
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Post by Desiundaground » 2004-06-22 16:03

Yes it does but just dont know how to get that to connect to my hub

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Post by TheParanoidOne » 2004-06-22 17:11

You should have received a piece of software that keeps that address synchronised with the IP address of your machine. This will mean that people will be able to connect to your hub using the DNS name no matter how many times the IP address of your computer changes.

So to recap, your hub is now working and accessible externally. To make sure that everyone can properly access it you need to:
a) Run the dynamic DNS update software (as mentioned above), at all times.
b) Tell people the no-ip.com address of the hub.
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Post by GargoyleMT » 2004-06-22 18:44

TheParanoidOne wrote:So to recap, your hub is now working and accessible externally. To make sure that everyone can properly access it you need to:
a) Run the dynamic DNS update software (as mentioned above), at all times.
Yes, this is exactly the point I was heading towards (if you weren't able to google a solution from what I said about your no-ip address not pointing to your computer's current IP address).

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Post by PseudonympH » 2004-06-22 22:06

Oh, I just can't wait until we have to explain to him how to get on public hub lists. :(

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It doesn't work !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Post by harvyo2 » 2004-06-23 14:42

I ve tried to connect and i get the same "connection timeout". Does the owner have to be on-line in order for the hub to work or is it possible to access it without the owner, as desiundaground's owner doesn't always have his pc on all the time

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ME again

Post by harvyo2 » 2004-06-23 14:43

I ve tried the name desiundaground.no-ip.com and 10.80.0 or whatever it is. both don't work do i need the actual owners ip

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Post by Desiundaground » 2004-06-23 14:56

my ip is 81.76.74.14 thats what i get when i go to www.no-ip.com but which ip did you use ParanoidOne??

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Re: It doesn't work !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Post by joakim_tosteberg » 2004-06-23 14:56

harvyo2 wrote:I ve tried to connect and i get the same "connection timeout".
Read the above posts about that his dns address doesn't update to correspond with his current ip which is neccesary for him as he seems to have a very dynamic ip.

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Post by joakim_tosteberg » 2004-06-23 14:57

Hehe, lol. He updated the dns address while I was writing :D

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