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Not true; it's a legitimate open source project, there are organisations out there that are prepared to take a bit of flak for the sake of a project.
Well, maybe one.
Anyway, I just find it frustrating that the only way to "get to know" you guys is a forum, which I find to be the internet equivalent of sticking postit notes on your flatmates door. I much prefer IRC, hence writing my chat-only client that's interfaced with from IRC. (blatant plug: http://sourceforge.net/projects/pidge )
Well, maybe one.
Anyway, I just find it frustrating that the only way to "get to know" you guys is a forum, which I find to be the internet equivalent of sticking postit notes on your flatmates door. I much prefer IRC, hence writing my chat-only client that's interfaced with from IRC. (blatant plug: http://sourceforge.net/projects/pidge )
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In the past there has existed two dev-hubs. One private and one public. Since Sedulus shutdown the public hub, no one has cared enough to setup a public one. The private hub is still up and operational (hosted by me). Either you set up a new public hub, and maintain it which none of us in the private hub has done yet since we don't care enough about. Sure, we do agree that it would be a good thing to have, but noone cares enough to set it up. Or you can contact someone in the private hub.
Everyone is supposed to download from the hubs, - I don´t know why, but I never do anymore.
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Concerns:
1. The old list had restrictions in place so only registered users could search or download. (Before this, we had lots of people coming into the hub who weren't interested in talk - just whatever MoGlo had told them was in the hub). This needs to be replicated.
2. Passwords to the private hub have often been transmitted via PM in the public hub in the past. The person running it has to either already have access, or be trusted not to intercept PMs.
3. There may not be a number three. I'm not sure, since those two points are my primary objections to J.Random.User setting up hubs in the past.
4. Oh yeah, either TE or people who want us to think they're TE, routinely attack the hub. Sedulus's hub was on a nice fat pipe (10Mbit+), so if you run an officially sanctioned DC Public hub, you need to have lots of bandwidth and be generally DDoS resistant.
Unless it's publicly accessible, it's no better than our existing invite-only hub.
1. The old list had restrictions in place so only registered users could search or download. (Before this, we had lots of people coming into the hub who weren't interested in talk - just whatever MoGlo had told them was in the hub). This needs to be replicated.
2. Passwords to the private hub have often been transmitted via PM in the public hub in the past. The person running it has to either already have access, or be trusted not to intercept PMs.
3. There may not be a number three. I'm not sure, since those two points are my primary objections to J.Random.User setting up hubs in the past.
4. Oh yeah, either TE or people who want us to think they're TE, routinely attack the hub. Sedulus's hub was on a nice fat pipe (10Mbit+), so if you run an officially sanctioned DC Public hub, you need to have lots of bandwidth and be generally DDoS resistant.
Unless it's publicly accessible, it's no better than our existing invite-only hub.
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this is already set1. The old list had restrictions in place so only registered users could search or download. (Before this, we had lots of people coming into the hub who weren't interested in talk - just whatever MoGlo had told them was in the hub). This needs to be replicated.
no such script in this hub en for trusting me.. feel free to ask ppl about me for thatPasswords to the private hub have often been transmitted via PM in the public hub in the past. The person running it has to either already have access, or be trusted not to intercept PMs.
this might be an issue..but for me..i think that ddos thingy is my problem cause i don't think any line can run smoothly when it's under a ddos atack.4. Oh yeah, either TE or people who want us to think they're TE, routinely attack the hub. Sedulus's hub was on a nice fat pipe (10Mbit+), so if you run an officially sanctioned DC Public hub, you need to have lots of bandwidth and be generally DDoS resistant.
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Hmm. A good response. But trust is the core, of the issue, right?Daywalkerâ„¢ wrote:no such script in this hub en for trusting me.. feel free to ask ppl about me for that
Sedulus hosted a couple hubs on his line - I think the DDoS only affected the one we were on. Well, it wasn't a DDoS proper, it was the following:Daywalkerâ„¢ wrote:this might be an issue..but for me..i think that ddos thingy is my problem cause i don't think any line can run smoothly when it's under a ddos atack.
* many users from a couple sets of IPs (not in the same range) joining
* chat spamming from all aforementioned users
Your answers seem to be right, or at least address my questions as stated. If enough other members of the existing dev hub go to yours, I'll go too.
Well, I just set up dcdev.no-ip.org:16591.
1 is taken care of, 2 is... Well, I'll be collecting your shoe size too... 3, yes, I'm unknown. 4, I'm also on a 'fat pipe'...
1 is taken care of, 2 is... Well, I'll be collecting your shoe size too... 3, yes, I'm unknown. 4, I'm also on a 'fat pipe'...
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Sounds like proxy flooders to me..that's more a hubsecurity thingy i think* many users from a couple sets of IPs (not in the same range) joining
* chat spamming from all aforementioned users
even on a 10/10 line it's nasty
well you can ask around and talk to me in person if that helps...Hmm. A good response. But trust is the core, of the issue, right?
trust is something that can't be coded nor written as plain text.
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The hub address is changed. It is now adc://dcdev.no-ip.org:16591.
Yes, ADC, and it is time to make a stand. Moving to ADC is the natural choice. Considering we are the ones that thrive the DC network forward, it is only obvious we are the ones that's making the stand.
I will NOT set up the NMDC hub again unless something unexpected happens. Whining is not part of that.
Yes, ADC, and it is time to make a stand. Moving to ADC is the natural choice. Considering we are the ones that thrive the DC network forward, it is only obvious we are the ones that's making the stand.
I will NOT set up the NMDC hub again unless something unexpected happens. Whining is not part of that.
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And then nothing.[22:01:30] *** Connecting to adc://dcdev.no-ip.org:16591...
[22:01:30] *** Connected
[22:01:31] <DCDev public> Field U4 has an invalid value, removed
Oh dear. I guess a negative port number could be construed as invalid.BINF 65YP IDZRFW2GQWVJJPYZFDMF6GG6N7TCKDYJA54ZDBX3Y PDTBWSO2IK3MZ3T73WZKKA6TCTPYZPPPWFZZONHQI NITheParanoidOne DEOMGWTFBBQ!!!111 SL2 SS99229940856 SF18471 HN1 HR0 HO2 VE++\s0.689 I40.0.0.0 U4-14124 SUADC0,TCP4,UDP4
Given that I've provided rubbish data, shouldn't it either a) still let me in or b) disconnect me? It's just sitting there.
Well, I cannot reproduce the problem, TPO. I used the same port as you and the hub removed it successfully without putting me into limbo. (It should let you in, despite of the incorrect parameter.)
There is no "MOTD" if you were waiting for that. Did you try and chat? It might be the same problem Phantom experience with STATE_NORMAL, but since I can't reproduce that either...
There is no "MOTD" if you were waiting for that. Did you try and chat? It might be the same problem Phantom experience with STATE_NORMAL, but since I can't reproduce that either...