Hey everyone, I need some advise

jtav69 · Post by **jtav69** » 2004-06-07 11:34

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for reading sake.

I am a admin for *****.no-ip.org, recentley my Ops started shouting in main chat when kicking people. I did not like this so I added this to the OPrules:

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-----Here are your OP rules-----
	-I DONT WANT TO SEE THIS ANYMORE...."If you dont let me dl the filelist i ban you! Understand?" or "YOU SICK FUCK!!!
		...you must be polite.

Here are my general hub rules:

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 Hub Rules:
5.   Do not share Preteen/Child/bestiality Porn

As you can see I dont allow any CP in my hub, and users are encouraged to report violations in the hubrules, while I was working on

the script to drop users whith no announcements said in mainchat, I didnt even want my users to know they were there,I wanted to run a clean hub.
Well I had an Op that did not like this and instead of talking to me about it, these are logs of what transpired:

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This was my PM trying to talk her down:
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[2004-05-31 09:14] <OPmaster> did i not say that i would script that 
[2004-05-31 09:15] <OPmaster> to drop the user
[2004-05-31 09:15] <sarah> Preteen incest scat...dont take these filenames to seriously, real sickos would not share illegal
[2004-05-31 09:15] <sarah> yes they would,
[2004-05-31 09:15] <OPmaster> well they wouldnt come to a public hub
[2004-05-31 09:16] <OPmaster> lets see how many ppl have seen files that have been renamed 
[2004-05-31 09:20] <OPmaster> and i wouldnt allow it, thats why im going to script it drop the user
[2004-05-31 09:21] <sarah> 9 times out of 10 the file is what it says it is
[2004-05-31 09:23] <OPmaster> nope sorry thats not the case......if it were....dont you think our FBI would be even busier 
[2004-05-31 09:23] <OPmaster> than what they are now
[2004-05-31 09:23] <sarah> you search for files with preteen and d'l some and see
[2004-05-31 09:24] <OPmaster> i am telling to to be more polite when you kick ppl

[2004-05-31 09:25] <OPmaster> yes and if i see it i will kick

[2004-05-31 09:29] <OPmaster> and you could have come to me and asked to talk to me about it....but you chose to insult me in main chat 

[2004-05-31 09:34] <OPmaster> they would rather use a network like kazaa or a private hub to share that
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During our Pmin she betrayed my trust and posted our private conversation in main chat,

I was simply trying to explain to her that in the world of filetrading X is not always X. Im sure you have all seen it before.
And that the scripts are trying to filter it out.
Well she must have been an Op in another hub ****porn.dynu.com ip address:81.********.
becouse this hub now constantly comes to my hub and runs riru_riru hubflooder with degrading messages to me and my
users:
These are just a snippet of the Profanities we have recieved.

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[2004-06-02 12:47] <grizzly>You're hub has been spammed by Ruri_Ruri's Hub Flooder!

[2004-06-02 14:09] <holiday> YOU HAVE ALL BEEN WARNED,  LEAVE THIS PAEDOPHILE HUB NOW OR FACE THE WRATH OF THE ANTI-PAEDOPHILE 

NETWORK, 2500+ MEMBERS.
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I have been getting port scanned many times ever since this situation began, I beleive from the users in their hub
all from the same ip subnet.

Their hub is offline, I think it maybe due to their ISP disconnecting them, relating to the portscans.
And now they go around spamming other hubs with my hub address, impersonating my ops in an attempt to discredit me.

What would you guys do, and if it is happening to you, please
remember that is it not me or my ops.
And I can supply IP addresses of the spammers at request, but not in here.

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for the sake of reading
Thank Sedulus,
i didnt realize how much i had put in there.

Xan1977 · Post by **Xan1977** » 2004-06-07 12:07

This goes in Off Topic. Don't post any IP addresses please.

Sedulus · Post by **Sedulus** » 2004-06-07 12:23

to reply in style with your post:

[19:03:51] <cologic> can someone sift through the massive http://dcplusplus.sourceforge.net/forum ... hp?t=10725 and see whether it's worthwhile? ;)
[19:08:56] <Sedulus> it's non-interesting, as far as my skimming skills tell me
[19:09:29] <Sedulus> one of his OPs quit because he allowed people to share files with childporn-like names
[19:09:45] <cologic> ah
[19:10:02] <Sedulus> and he got chat-spammed and portscanned by various users later
[19:10:11] <cologic> those are strange users.
[19:10:45] <cologic> especially if he was more lenient than some ops there liked
[19:11:39] <Sedulus> well.. the flooding users were the ex-OP, and her buddies, as far as sounds reasonable
[19:11:55] <cologic> ah. er, if they left voluntarily, that's silly
[19:12:43] <Sedulus> well.. they're on a "crusade" to "right the wrongs" that exist in that hub
[19:13:33] <Sedulus> i.e. discredit the hub, so there is one less "chilporn allowing" hub in the world
[19:14:29] <cologic> sigh.
[19:14:53] <Sedulus> the owner gets no defense from me.. if it's chilporn, which it's most likely not, he should take appropriate action, imo -- if it's badly named files, it goes against the proper file naming convention, and he should take appropriate action, imo
[19:15:36] <Sedulus> s/appropriate action/make the file(name)s go away, one way or the other/
[19:16:00] <cologic> Sure, but to cast that hub as "childporn allowing" for the purposes of a righteous crusade is a bit much for me.
[19:16:46] <Sedulus> oh.. I agree.. if the hubowner doesn't clean the misnamed files, it's his bad for not having a clean hub, and I would just seek out a hub that has stricter control
[19:16:54] <cologic> (In the historical sense of a crusade, which is strangely appropriate here.)
[19:18:32] <Sedulus> in any case.. as long as he's not getting DDoS'ed.. simply banning a few ip's/ranges would suffice.. problem solved
[19:18:51] <Sedulus> (this chat goes for a nice reply to his own chat logs)
[19:19:21] <GargoyleMT@work> kicking for tthes makes more sense than filenames
[19:19:42] <GargoyleMT@work> i'm surprised that any automated system gets cologic's seal of approval
[19:20:15] <cologic> What automated system?
[19:21:44] <GargoyleMT@work> well, kicking, without exception, anyone with certain keywords in their share, which seems to be what the original op wanted, and what sed wants too.
[19:23:30] <cologic> This is one area where my coming into DC by running a hub bleeds through a bit - child porn is ... something that concerns me more than these 'don't share <x file extension>' rules.
[19:23:46] <Sedulus> erm.. preteen.mp3 != incest cum preteen 14yr sex brunette.avi
[19:23:49] <cologic> Further, kicking/banning/etc isn't involved necessarily.
[19:24:04] <Sedulus> so I wouldn't want it fully automated
[19:24:06] <cologic> Nor did sedulus imply it by my reading.
[19:24:14] <GargoyleMT@work> ok
[19:24:53] <GargoyleMT@work> so, see the file in search, warn the user - user renames/removes it? (that's how you'd like it?)
[19:25:04] <cologic> yea

jtav69 · Post by **jtav69** » 2004-06-07 12:38

Yups
I was more than happy to kick someone for CP.
I dont allow it, as my rules would state.
but i wanted the shouting when kicking in main chat to stop.
Many hubs out there are getting spammed with my hubaddresss and i have
alot of pissed off hubowners coming to my hub.

Post by **GargoyleMT** » 2004-06-07 12:53

jtav69 wrote:i have alot of pissed off hubowners coming to my hub.

Might as well put the URL for this thread into your welcome message, then.

jtav69 · Post by **jtav69** » 2004-06-07 13:02

GargoyleMT wrote:
jtav69 wrote:i have alot of pissed off hubowners coming to my hub.
Might as well put the URL for this thread into your welcome message, then.

Thanks gargoyle
ill do that.