File list refreshing

Mordok · Post by **Mordok** » 2003-07-22 10:31

Could it be possible that in next version of DC++ would have file list autorefresh once in 15 minutes?

Post by **GargoyleMT** » 2003-07-22 10:33

Why the poll? It will not help you get your feature coded any faster.

What's wrong with the hourly option?

(You'll need to explain new features a bit more than that.)

jbyrd · Post by **jbyrd** » 2003-07-22 10:37

To be honest, I think one hour is still to often. Once a day sounds plenty. Most people don't change their shares very often.

Mordok · Post by **Mordok** » 2003-07-22 10:39

that the problem is that 15 minutes would be more faster and so there would be less wrong info when searching...

cyberal · Post by **cyberal** » 2003-07-22 10:39

I can agree that a more frequent refresh would be nice, lotsa ppl move their stuff around all the time for some reason.

I don't but I see why ppl sould want it..

Why not make the refresh interval custumizable?

Mordok · Post by **Mordok** » 2003-07-22 10:41

An hour is too often?

cyberal · Post by **cyberal** » 2003-07-22 10:42

jbyrd wrote:To be honest, I think one hour is still to often. Once a day sounds plenty. Most people don't change their shares very often.

hm, well.. most ppl download stuff quite frequently I belive.. and new stuff should be shared. If you only gonna refresh once a day I see no reason to do it automaticly... but what the heck.. make a setting for X number of minutes and you get your way too

Post by **GargoyleMT** » 2003-07-22 10:45

Share refreshes do not come at no cost. Especially if any of those files are on LAN drives. Teach people about /refresh, and the problem has a much nicer solution.

Mordok · Post by **Mordok** » 2003-07-22 10:48

that this is a good alternative.

Mordok · Post by **Mordok** » 2003-07-22 10:49

Is the cost?

peasemaker · Post by **peasemaker** » 2003-07-22 10:55

cyberal wrote:make a setting for X number of minutes and you get your way too

I think this is a good option if you want to change your refresh time.

But if you download big items you aren't done in less than 1 hour, and that is wath most people do i think, so why change the time.

Post by **GargoyleMT** » 2003-07-22 10:58

Mordok wrote:Is the cost?

DC++ rescans all of the directories when you refresh, if you have a large share, this can take your CPU time and network activity (for remote files). Since DC++ already uses too much CPU time for some users, this is something to keep in mind.

jbyrd · Post by **jbyrd** » 2003-07-22 11:00

that the problem is that 15 minutes would be more faster and so there would be less wrong info when searching...

I thought that you meant you want filelists that you've downloaded from others to be refreshed every 15 minutes. If so, you would have to communicate with that person every 15 minutes. Doing so would cost, well, bandwidth.

But, it looks like I may have read your request wrong.

most ppl download stuff quite frequently I belive.. and new stuff should be shared

The downloads should be *verified* before sharing. This means that your dc++ folder shouldn't be shared, and this means that you will have to check them and move them to another folder. When you're done verifying/moving, simply refresh.

Mordok · Post by **Mordok** » 2003-07-22 11:14

Tried to be creative.

cyberal · Post by **cyberal** » 2003-07-22 11:59

jbyrd wrote:When you're done verifying/moving, simply refresh.

Ofcourse, I agree with you totally! I don't share my downloads folder, and not my finished downloads either.. always check my files before I share them. But it would be nice to get rid of the /refresh thingy!
If I have to do it manually, the least you can give me is a "refresh filelist"-button!

Post by **GargoyleMT** » 2003-07-22 12:59

cyberal wrote:If I have to do it manually, the least you can give me is a "refresh filelist"-button!

Come up with a workable euphemism/icon/glyph idea and I'll see if I can make an icon for it.

jbyrd · Post by **jbyrd** » 2003-07-22 13:40

Is it against the rules to use the refresh icon in IE?

[KUN.NL]mepmuff · Post by **[KUN.NL]mepmuff** » 2003-07-22 14:16

Dang... now i've got saliva all over my monitor....

TheParanoidOne · Post by **TheParanoidOne** » 2003-07-22 14:21

Mmmm... alcohol.

jbyrd wrote:Is it against the rules to use the refresh icon in IE?

That icon (or atleast, icon style) is already used for Reconnect.
I can see it being hard to come up with an icon that everyone would instantly recognise as meaning "Refresh File List".
Perhaps if an icon for File List could be invented, then it could be combined with Open and Refresh to become Open File List and Refresh File ist. :shrug:

Is manual refresh such a frequent action that it should get it's own toolbar button?

FYI, I voted No.

jbyrd · Post by **jbyrd** » 2003-07-22 14:37

Oh yeah. I forgot. I haven't used dc++ for 2 months, because I don't have broadband at the moment (I'll be back on in about a week)!

Well, to me, that pic says "refresh me"!

But, here's an idea:

Use the same type of system that you have for queue, downloads, etc folder. You could have the IE refresh icon with a plug in front for reconnect, and an IE refresh icon with a, um, list for refresh filelist.

I would like to make an icon for it, but I don't know how to include a picture from my computer.

jbyrd · Post by **jbyrd** » 2003-07-22 15:02

Ok, one more idea:

You can kind of do away with the reconnect/IE refresh icon.
Instead, use the same type of arrows. Um, think of outlook express. Instead of using an envelope, use a list for the filelist and a plug for reconnect.

Here is a good icon for reconnect (without the "refresh" arrows)

Post by **GargoyleMT** » 2003-07-23 15:49

You two are having a good discussion about icons and meanings

jbyrd · Post by **jbyrd** » 2003-07-23 15:55

Who, me and myself?

So, what do you think? You're going to put this in (if we're lucky) so I need to know where you stand on this, GarMT.

Post by **GargoyleMT** » 2003-07-23 16:06

jbyrd wrote:So, what do you think? You're going to put this in (if we're lucky) so I need to know where you stand on this, GarMT.

Well, I'd like a new icon set in 24x24 (the standard toolbar size), that's free for inclusion in a GPLed program. My icons are a bit creative (but based off of the basic windows folder icon - and the clock), but many others are just copied from elsewhere. I don't think that's right, even though the copyright holders will probably never complain.

I-prefer-to-do-things-by-the-book-lyers

cyberal · Post by **cyberal** » 2003-07-24 01:02

jbyrd wrote:Here is a good icon for reconnect (without the "refresh" arrows)

that pic is beautiful!!

arne.. switch the reconnect icon for this one!!

Post by **GargoyleMT** » 2003-07-24 11:09

cyberal wrote:that pic is beautiful!! arne.. switch the reconnect icon for this one!!

The one thing it has going for it (I like) is that it's easily enough re-created in Illustrator. I love vector graphics so much more than raster ones.

(my current avatar, the Laughing Man from Ghost in the Shell - Stand Alone Complex is also natively in Illustrator... I didn't have that much foresight when I created the 48x48 XP icon for DC++ though.)

jbyrd · Post by **jbyrd** » 2003-07-24 11:56

I love vector graphics so much more than raster ones.

Ah, yes. That's what gives it its appeal.

Sorry, but I should have made it more clear that I did NOT want to use that icon EXACTLY. It was just a start.

Post by **GargoyleMT** » 2003-07-24 13:16

jbyrd wrote:Sorry, but I should have made it more clear that I did NOT want to use that icon EXACTLY. It was just a start.

I agree, it's an interesting motif/style.

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