When will dch++ be relased

Macce · Post by **Macce** » 2003-08-07 03:09

About after a month or a Ã‚Â½ year or 1 year or 5 years?

BaBe · Post by **BaBe** » 2003-08-07 03:21

When it is finished i guess..

TheParanoidOne · Post by **TheParanoidOne** » 2003-08-07 03:49

Where can i find dch++
Where can I download the dch++ beta?

Macce · Post by **Macce** » 2003-08-07 04:23

can't you tell me about when it will be relased?

1 month?
2? 3?
Ã‚Â½ year?
1 year?
more?

Sedulus · Post by **Sedulus** » 2003-08-07 05:14

no, because we don't know when it's finished (i.e. enough to be stable on linux/2k/xp/2k3, not containing major (and hopefully minor) security holes, and has enough features)

Macce · Post by **Macce** » 2003-08-07 05:17

This year or next year?

TheParanoidOne · Post by **TheParanoidOne** » 2003-08-07 06:15

What part of "We don't know" are you having trouble with?

Macce · Post by **Macce** » 2003-08-07 06:18

hehe...just wondering...

ToxicFool · Post by **ToxicFool** » 2003-08-25 01:32

Duke Nukem 4 Ever will be released when its finished too. and thats been under development for more then 4 years.

worthalter · Post by **worthalter** » 2003-11-02 17:51

i think it will be released when its done

Twink · Post by **Twink** » 2003-11-02 19:13

worthalter wrote:i think it will be released when its done

is anything ever done thou?, I mean done implies they've finished working on it and won't work on it again. it will be released when it's ready, hmmm yeah well how about, it might be released at some date in the future.

Drantin · Post by **Drantin** » 2004-01-11 22:36

Duke Nukem 4 Ever will be released when its finished too. and thats been under development for more then 4 years.

Try closer to 6 or 7, I remember a PCGamer cover from '98 that featured Ol' Duke , and even then it had gone through a couple engine changes...

Upon re-reading, yes you did say 'more than'

BSOD2600 · Post by **BSOD2600** » 2004-01-12 03:18

Actually, Arne has mentioned that he's thinking about releasing it here very shortly...

Lightning Man · Post by **Lightning Man** » 2004-01-12 09:51

This is happy news.

SlasH · Post by **SlasH** » 2004-04-23 19:51

Hi all

Just wondering in to check on progress of DCH++..I know it will be worth the wait..
Nice to see peeps wanting to get it right before release and not having a mad dash for huge bug fix's...Thanks for the work fellows!!

SlasH

cologic · Post by **cologic** » 2004-04-27 03:44

Wow.

It's been well more than a year. DC has only existed, IIRC, for 4 or 5 total, and DC++ itself for only 2.5 years or so according to the changelog.

That arne's been able to sustain interest in this either astounds me, that people think it'll be that good (I have no basis for saying otherwise, but ultimately, it's just a piece of DC hub software) or depressed that none of the half-dozen of other decent hubs around haven't managed to fill in whatever gaps cause people to yearn for DCH++.

This is all very amusing, though.

Hoosierdaddy · Post by **Hoosierdaddy** » 2004-05-01 09:52

Twink wrote:is anything ever done thou? [sic] I mean done implies they've finished working on it and won't work on it again.

LOL! You gotta be kidding right?

Over 1000 man hours of beta testing went into the development of Windows XP. And they still released Service Pack 1 within a year! Your comments reveals a gross ignorance of the entire software development process. Software developers are always trying to improve their programs with new features and bugfixes. All with one thing in mind. Greater stability for YOU...the end user.

Todi · Post by **Todi** » 2004-05-01 11:13

Hoosierdaddy wrote:Software developers are always trying to improve their programs with new features and bugfixes. All with one thing in mind. Greater stability for YOU...the end user.

Or in Microsoft and many others case, to make more money by getting their users to upgrade to new, expensive software for no real reason. I think you're being a bit naive here..

Hoosierdaddy · Post by **Hoosierdaddy** » 2004-05-01 15:50

Todi wrote:Or in Microsoft and many others case, to make more money by getting their users to upgrade to new, expensive software for no real reason. I think you're being a bit naive here..

Ok. I'll play your silly game. Tell me...how does Microsoft make any money off of Service Packs which I download for FREE? No. I think it's you (and others who believe as you do) who are naive. Do you really believe that M$ actaully WANTS to release software that is broken so that they have to invest millions of dollars to FIX it after the fact? Please. That's not the way development works my friend. Let the Sourceforge community (of which DC++ is just one part) give you a clue here. Developing software is hard work and it takes many many revisions and long long hours of beta testing to work all the bugs out.

Or, you can just go one believing your own hype that M$ is the evil capiltalist empire. Whatever. Not sure what all that has to do with DC++ development anyway. But you brought it up.

Post by **GargoyleMT** » 2004-05-01 16:33

Other things aside, at one point (in 1995) Bill Gates did make that assertion:

http://www.cantrip.org/nobugs.html

Nowadays, I'm sure Microsoft has an utterly sensible bug policy. Here's a blog entry by one of their testers:
http://headblender.com/joe/blog/archive ... 01280.html

And... it has nothing to do with DC(H)++'s development process, though having official testers and a test suite would be very nice.

Todi · Post by **Todi** » 2004-05-02 11:02

Hoosierdaddy wrote:Ok. I'll play your silly game. Tell me...how does Microsoft make any money off of Service Packs which I download for FREE? No. I think it's you (and others who believe as you do) who are naive.

I'm not talking about service packs. I'm talking about companies releasing a new version of their software every year (Hello Symantec), when the old version is stable enough and has more than enough features for most of the users. I'm talking about companies (hello Microsoft) releasing a new Operating System every couple of years, because they need a new product to make money on, and trying to force people to upgrade despite there being no real need to do so. I know many companies who still run all their systems on Windows NT and it works great, despite that MS does everything they can to get them to upgrade. These companies are not releasing new versions out of the goodness of their hearts, they do it to make money. Once again, believing anything else is very naive...

Hoosierdaddy wrote:Or, you can just go one believing your own hype that M$ is the evil capiltalist empire. Whatever. Not sure what all that has to do with DC++ development anyway. But you brought it up.

MS being an evil capitalist empire? No, that's pretty much every industrial country in the world, it's not that limited i'm afraid. But that doesn't mean i have to like it, now does it?

heyz · Post by **heyz** » 2004-05-31 08:18

I don't see what the problem is. Microsoft comes up with new versions or Symantec coming up with new versions. You say they do it for making more money. Now whats wrong in making money? there r basically 4 kinds of people -1) People who cant make money 2) Poeple who can make money 3) Unfortunate people who can't make money 4) unfortunate People who have the skills to make money inspite of their fortune.

new updates and new technology is always good. Do u suggest that there is no difference between a Windows 95 and a windows XP? If your idea that updates shouldn't happen if the current system is working good enough then i think goign by that we would never have made computers smaller than the size of a room. Whats wrong in Innovatoon? Is Sony wrong in making the Walkman and making money out of it? Someone comes up with a good idea and the world appreciates it through money. Most parts of the world and most times in human history have worked in this way.

TheParanoidOne · Post by **TheParanoidOne** » 2004-05-31 08:25

heyz wrote:new updates and new technology is always good.

"If it ain't broke, don't fix it".

heyz wrote:Whats wrong in Innovatoon?

Absolutely nothing. However I think you're confusing "annual release of new version" with innovation.