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GargoyleMT wrote:that's why we recommend it.

We definitely need some kind of goofy picture to go along with that phrase. Yeah, I'm weird.

PseudonympH

you should be l33t and use temporaries so you only have to have one line of code in the loop ;) QueueManager::getInstance()->remove( ctrlTransfers.getItemData(i)->getText(COLUMN_PATH) + ctrlTransfers.getItemData(i)->getText(COLUMN_FILE) ); and like magic, it is now both 6 fewer lines of code and, as...

PseudonympH

Hi guys, my 2 cents about multisource feature in DC++, I think that this features must be available, I vote for it, because if implemented properly - it can help a lot to make a traffic lower, especially when you can control slots/connections on a hub/client. Personally I like a lot how it is imple...

PseudonympH

It should simply show up with an error message in the status bar, but I doubt most people would notice and come here complaining.

Maybe we should chase after liny and ask him to submit a magnet support patch.

PseudonympH

Look at the sticky on the hubs and scripts forum.

PseudonympH

So then you turn the option off and re-add all the removed sources.

PseudonympH

Todi wrote:2) True, but if i'm not mistaken you need a slot to detect that, and that would make it somewhat ugly too. But ok, it should work. Write a patch

Wouldn't you just have to check their supports for GetZBlock, and disconnect if it's not there? That comes before any get commands....

PseudonympH

Oh, I just can't wait until we have to explain to him how to get on public hub lists.

PseudonympH

Yeah, I tend to go on and on and on... I'll try to follow the form of your post here, just imagine that your paragraphs are quoted before mine as I'm not a big fan of them quote tags. Well, I just hope you don't mind that I do. :) But anyway, the way that I see it, multi-source downloading for file...

PseudonympH

Links besides hub links are planned to use magnet links. Those kinds of links (ones that specify a filename/size/TTH to be added to the download queue mainly) are not even remotely ADC-specific, so it doesn't make sense to have them as adc links. Plus, it's just like http and https.

PseudonympH

Because you touch yourself at night.

PseudonympH

Wow. That was impressive. And I thought I wrote a lot. :) Anyway, note that partial file sharing is a planned feature. Multisource is also sort of useless for files this small, as who cares if it takes a minute longer to get something? Multisource only really becomes useful when the files are greate...

PseudonympH

Out of curiosity, what is this "awesome music thing" you describe?

On a random side note, I am wary of anything that claims it is "awesome" (if that's where you heard it was...). Maddox agrees with me.

PseudonympH

Something just occured to me: how are we going to do emotes? i.e. * PseudonympH does something. Currently, they're just sent as raw text with the pipe at the end, but that obviously can't be done with ADC. So how can we do this? IMSG commands are always displayed as raw? Display messages coming from...

PseudonympH

Partial File Sharing (PFS) is on the radar, and will probably be looked into once multisource comes along. I don't know about your 15 MB chunk size; the chunk size used will probably be whatever size the block size of the TTH leaves is (2 MB for a 700 MB movie). You can do a search on PFS to find pr...

PseudonympH

Or you could, like, turn off auto match queue. Personally, for small files I only choose whoever has a free slot because I tend to care less about the quality when it's a small file. Anyway, it's not at all hard to manually match queue from search results; all you need is a shift key and 4 mouse cli...

PseudonympH

GargoyleMT wrote:but you cannot file bug reports against BCDC++ here (or anywhere - that's by design).

somehow it always sounds sinister when you say that...

PseudonympH

I've been putting off typing this up for weeks now, and as I have nothing else to do in programming class I guess I'll give it a shot. Basically, I believe that with a good multisourcing algorithm, it's possible to get most of the benefits of rotating upload queues and the download speeds multisourc...

PseudonympH

Sedulus wrote:1) DC++ resolves the hostname before sending it out

Ah... I didn't know that was how it worked.

PseudonympH

Unfortunately, that won't be an option under ADC, and I think that's something that will make a fair amount of people angry about it. That and the UTF-8 thing are the only things the average end user could possibly notice, and it's sad that one of them is a big negative, and the other will not be no...

PseudonympH

Doesn't the downloader have to send $Send every 40k or so? I seem to remember reading about that somewhere in one of the sites describing the protocol.

found it: http://www.1stleg.com/1stleg/Download/D ... shake.html

PseudonympH

Well, you can always just count the number of names in the remove source menu...

PseudonympH

Ahh... can't wait to get reported to ops for having DC++ and not having open slots for the file list

Still sounds great though; more reasons for people to upgrade to TTH-capable clients.

PseudonympH

Well, even if they're not there when you ask, there's a very good chance they'll be back within 24 hours, and I have no problem waiting that long. The "I must have this right now" mentality works much better with programs like BitTorrent than it does with DC. The major flaw with that algorithm is th...

PseudonympH

Well, seeing as an upload queue is a rejected feature and it's always been this way, it's going to take a lot to get this done. The Law of Averages says that people who have been waiting for longer have more of a chance of getting a slot anyway, and if it's a file that's very rare, you can usually a...

PseudonympH

Well, because it takes more effort to code that check and a method would need to be devised to check if the filelist has updated: something that involves a protocol change and therefore must be carefully considered.

PseudonympH

I know, I know. I just felt like being a smartass.

PseudonympH

I think he's missing the point of match queue. The way I read it, you're looking for "Download to..." Match queue downloads the user's filelist and checks the files in his list against those in your download queue to see if he can be added as a source. The idea behind the auto-match queue is that if...

PseudonympH

The file list is refreshed every hour, anyway, so it doesn't matter that much. Plus, it's not like typing /refresh twice instead of once is that incredibly hard.

PseudonympH

Oops. Guess I get an A for effort, though.

PseudonympH

I believe the 1.70 ratio is caused by the same thing that causes the ratio for uploads to start at around .25 for uploads that are starting at the beginning of the file. The ratio seems to be counting received bytes and bytes read into the buffer. For uploads, it loads around 64k into the buffer at ...

PseudonympH

I'd say 8 to 16 megs would be a good starter chunk size. Files smaller than that don't need to be multisourced, since by the time you get more than one slot it'll be done already unless the person has really bad upload. A lot of the problems from multisource come with having to still work with old c...

PseudonympH

File > import queue from NMDC. Easy as pie. I've never used it though, so I can't personally vouch for it.

PseudonympH

So the safe and compressed transfers weren't worth putting in, then? I'd tend to disagree...

PseudonympH

Naw, just wait until ADC is up and running.... should be as simple as putting both a >> and << argument in the search. Hopefully the client will be able to handle it...

PseudonympH

Honestly, if he can't figure it out by himself, he shouldn't be running a hub in the first place.
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PseudonympH

Stuff like this is why multisource would be a good thing. It's not so much about having great speeds, but about not having crappy ones.

PseudonympH

and this is why we use our awesome skills to fake our tag to not have the B: part

PseudonympH

I could have sworn that it would only go over the max download slots setting by 3. At least it's supposed to. In that case, just set it to 47

PseudonympH

I'm for it. Sounds (algorithmically) simple, too.

PseudonympH

Or you could restrict it to an executable/compressed file search and save cycles on both your end and the end of the people returning the search results. Or, simply set the size threshold above a meg or two to prevent images from getting returned. Problem solved.

PseudonympH

The hashing thread is set to run at low (idle?) priority, so I don't know what your problem is... The only thing that it should affect is stuff that requires a lot of hard drive access. Anyway, once the hashing gets done the first time, you'll never have to wait for more than a few seconds at a time...

PseudonympH

I find it strange that nobody told him about other hub software. You know, the EXTENDEDPROTOCOL ones?

PseudonympH

I think the highest I've ever gotten was somewhere around 15 downloads at the same time... no idea how some of these people do it. The simple solution is: don't use highest priority, use high and set other ones down as you need to.

PseudonympH

just to clarify, hashing has nothing to do with downloading from more than one user.. Well, actually, they are related because hashing enables safe multisourcing because then you can be sure all the people have the exact same file and that it was downloaded correctly. That's as far as it goes, thou...

PseudonympH

Well, since DC++ doesn't have any support for sharing incomplete files right now, this wouldn't really work. However, this kind of thing does happen naturally, just with a large lag time: popular files wind up with more sources, so there are more people to be able to get a slot from. Once multisourc...

PseudonympH

Why do I have the feeling that I will get hours of entertainment out of you trying to do this?

PseudonympH

linux_newbie wrote:i worked out a looooong time ago that if 10 people shared 2KBps it was more effective than 1 @ 20KBps.

Why? I'd rather have to wait to get 5-20 than get 2 instantly because it makes getting the slot seem worthwhile. Of course, if we have multisource it makes more sense, but still...

PseudonympH

Well, with BCDC++'s custom description format, you can hardcode a slot count to advertise in your tag, which is the only place most hubs check (from my experience anyway).

PseudonympH

or not queue more than you can download....

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