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ivulfusbar

gargoyle: if i remember it correctly, it was the opera-edition or the fusbar-edition that had this issue.

ivulfusbar

I do the opposite, i add such users to Favorites and grant them slots automaticly...

ivulfusbar

I don't understand your last comment at all. I have no idea what you are talking about.

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ivulfusbar wrote:
This will cost "number of songs" * "number of users online" (more or less, not counting passive $SR et.c..)

Well, since the passive $SR is insignificant in auto-search replies since they are 1<-->1 and not broadcasts.

*grins* ,))

ivulfusbar

jbyrd wrote: So, the excessive filelist downloads is the result of not being able to perform an adl search on previously downloaded filelists?

You can do this today already.

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But, what good is a single source that is an alternate for, say 10 files? Well, I guess it depends how large those files are. But, if we are talking >100MB, then that single source is practically null in 9 of the other files because he can't upload *that* to you until he is finished uploading the *...

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When it comes to the magic number five, i must say i prefer 3 or 7. They have higher symbolic power than 5 in most religons.

Having users fill one more number will probably confuse them more then help them. (i hope no one will mention the DF i did in this context a couple of days earlier *blinks*).

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And would someone please explain to me exactly how downloading filelists lowers the strain on hubs? I understand that you obtain the filelist from the alternate source (which was found via the hub, anyway). And I am under the impression that subsequent searches also resort to looking in the filelis...

ivulfusbar

If you search the forum, then you will find several threads on this issue. Please feel free to search for already submitted feature-requests and continue any of those thread already dealing with the subject.

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With any general bot, they can register themself.. very easily.

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http://www.hublist.org has some stats of which hubsofts are used..

ivulfusbar

Another way is ofcourse to change things on the hubserver side, Do the hub support $UserIP, and if so, does it send you $UserIP. Then you could trigger on this in your checks for example.

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I got an popup add from SF the other day... i was dissapointed..

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Well, opera doesn't have access to this thread anyway so.

*grins*

ivulfusbar

TheNOP wrote:in my opinion, if this is to be implimented, it should test for same IP only, not IP and nick.
a user can easely have different nicks in different hubs.

Same IP is not possible since many users are behind NAT, for example in some hubs 10-50 users have the same IP.

ivulfusbar

still, same IP, same ShareSize, same IP doesn't mean they are the same. ;))

ivulfusbar

Your screenshot doesn't show what you think it shows. It only shows two users with the same nickname downloading from you on two different hubs. You don't know that the users are the same.. you only assume it due the same nickname. ,))

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oohh yes, another follow-up on the subject. In the protocol you can search in the following ways, "Normal (no size restrictions)", "Atleast size", "Atmost size". Some also support a more or less hackish way to send "Exact" size. It is not possible to search for between size x and size y on outgoing ...

ivulfusbar

This is a little bit dangerous if you don't know the exact size. You could possibly find a match of a file which is 20GB large, and with a fast connection your harddrive will soon be filled. So, you probably have to set a max size aswell. But you can more or less almost do this now, the only problem...

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this has already been accomplished using scripts. I know Sedulus have done it atleast. But its not fool-proof in the current protocol. Hubs currently have problems with Passive users as always, so you will have some troubles making a foolproof solution to 100%. So you should think this through and y...

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If you tried to search the forum for your errors you will find several posts answering your question. Try to search for, error C2065: '_Alloc' : undeclared identifier as an example. http://dcplusplus.sourceforge.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5955&highlight=error+c2065+alloc+undeclared+identifier http://...

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cologic wrote:(1)
(2) As far as cyberal's suggestion, what about multihomed hubs? Better is to have $CTM pass on a randomly generated token/cookie that's passed pack to the uploader upon connection so it can identify the hub it came from.

Is the best solution to the problem, better than yours jbyrd..

ivulfusbar

you can also check out ddd if you want a more graphical interface to gdb
http://www.gnu.org/software/ddd/

ivulfusbar

read the answers to this question already answered in others thread. There you will see thats its impossible with the current protocol in some sence.

ivulfusbar

you also have verlibot written by verliba, http://verlibot.sf.net/
There are several other closed source bots aswell..

ivulfusbar

i recomend that you visit http://yhub.mine.nu/ instead, and ask the question there. ;))

And if you have a copy? why don't you try it? You will see what is builtin by trying it. ;))

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oDC also had it a long time ago, but it was removed in later versions.

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thats not ture, other clients also use static keys, i have written several ,))

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well, it depends on what the hubs can handle, and how they treat the information. But if we look at the rest of the protocol, ip should be used. Thats atleast the case for $Search, $SR and $ConnectToMe. Which hubsoft are you thinking of. Take dc++ for example, its "resolves" the dnsname (if you have...

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if we do some wild guessing, he means a ClientDetectionMode of DC++. The most common is devoloped by farcry. There are also others, but then again all of them are not availabel for the public (which in some cases contradrict GPL, but in others not depending on how it has been distributed.)

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Well? After that the client has sent "$ValidateNick <nickname>|", the hub might respond with "$GetPass|" and expect the client to send its password with "$MyPass <password>|". So yes, this is done by all clients using "passwords". If the user is only a registered user and not OP, then skip sending "...

ivulfusbar

i want my bot to enter the hub i mean i want to see him on the userlist. how do i change his name or play with the commands....i tryed to find aweb with help but i didnt found any. Well first of all your question is incomplete. Do you have a script? a client-side bot? Which hub-soft is it if its a ...

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I would like to argue that the "killing the bandwidth" theory is an ignorant grasp in the air. Shows how much you know about the problems for certain hubs. First of all, the reason the Hub's bandwidth suffer today is because people start multiple manual searches for files in their DL-queue and then...

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best solution is to search for one file, and then grab filelists from people you got match from, and then use match queue. Some clients/mods (not in any major release i know of) use an agressive tactic instead and add extra source on all files below in the hirarkie. This might increase the use of $c...

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a small comment, well? ofcourse opensource projects can be dragge dinto court.

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do you want a gui-control of you dc++ or only command-interface in a console window? most of the solutions to these problems has not been released and are only one-person-ugly hacks. atleast the solutions i have heard about. It was on my python-extend-embed-todo list, but i guess that never will be ...

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i think i was against $UserCommands last time it was discussed so i better be consistent with my earlier belifs. ;)) First, usercommands is today visible in two frames (atleast my own mod), in the search-frame and the userlist-frame (when i think about it i have it in the filetransfer-frame aswell)....

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I don't like how Connect is done. As it is proposed now, its not possible to use multiple share in different hubs, i.e., it has the same flaws as the current DC-protocol. This could be solved if the client who sends Connect sends a random-string, which the other client has to respond with i nthe cli...

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anyone happen to have a copy? somewhere? ;)) (the link is currently down)

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and you can also spoof PMs with others nick, i.e i can spoof a PM as,
$To cologic From: Sedulus $<Sedulus> woot.. fusbar is ivul.

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is it time to continue with my client-client-detection-mod? i hope people are aware of the limitations with client-detection-mods and sharecheckers.

writes-a-long-disclaimer-about-that-some-should-not-use-clients-they-do-not-understand-ly'ers ,))

ivulfusbar

yes, have a look at jtdc (the dc++ mod). It has "Bitrate, Artist, Album, Track, Year etc.."

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the point is that autosearchs is not a good thing from a bandwidth point of view. Approx 95% of all searches sent to your client is probably an autosearch. I have always laughed on the fact that hubowners wants to see the number of hubs users are registered in, but not if the client has autosearch e...

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i recomend you save it, so that only has to be run once. And next time you run the app, it will use the old calculated bitrates. Regarding the algorithm you can always take a sneak at id3lib, http://id3lib.sourceforge.net/

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well, i was only interested in which "ips" you used and from which list. I had into the hubsoft i wrote actually got attempts from those ipseries to connect. I'm not sure how valid those entries are, atleast the one i recogniced. for example, bannig webhotels only because some agency has their page ...

ivulfusbar

are you using some peer-guardian alike feature?

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no, $HubId with hubip and hubport can not be used, many hubs are multihomed. Mine and xayides "home" hub for example. And more and more hubs supports more than one port to make sure that users with ivul isps can still connect. We have discussed this before, and i think if this is needed, a extension...

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and please sign in with a nick with two uppercase characters (not SeduluS, not SEdulus, not sEdUlus, but SeDulus or whatever), ...and no need to "create a homepage" for yourself, unless you have something useful to put there ;) is it only me? or am i the only one not understanding? should iit be Wh...

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there is another rather simple solution which might not be the prettiest. Use differents ports, then you can make sure which user it is.

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the fundamental point is that GetNickList should not be part of the hub-client handshake as it has nothing todo with the login-procedure or validation procedure (sharesize/slots/hubs). GetNickList is an optional argument that can be sent by a client who wants to know which users are online on the hu...

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